{"id":1667,"date":"2020-06-11T18:31:01","date_gmt":"2020-06-11T17:31:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lostlogos.co.uk\/?page_id=1667"},"modified":"2020-07-22T17:01:23","modified_gmt":"2020-07-22T16:01:23","slug":"greeves-250-sports-twin","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/turnillhiswebsite.co.uk\/?page_id=1667","title":{"rendered":"Greeves 250 &#8216;Sports Twin&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail\"><a href=\"https:\/\/turnillhiswebsite.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/Greeves-Sports-Twin-1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/turnillhiswebsite.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/Greeves-Sports-Twin-1-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1669\"\/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Once again, not the actual machine. As with the A7, my memories are very vague. I seem to recall that I bought it from someone in Gosport (a small coastal town in Hampshire, England, still known as &#8216;Turktown&#8217; because of the burial of Turkish sailors in the 1850&#8217;s).  Sadly it was not a success as I found I could not get more than 40 mph out of it!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As I understand it, Greeves established themselves by producing a 3 wheeled invalid carriage, powered by a 147cc Villiers engine, which became the standard issue in a government disability benefit scheme driven by the large number of disabled ex-servicemen after WW2. Greeves&#8217; interest in this arose because Derry Preston-Cobb, a relative of Bert Greeves (the proprietor) was disabled. I remember, as a Boy Scout, doing my Second Class Hike, tramping down a local lane and singing loudly &#8220;When the red revolution comes&#8221; (this went to the tune of &#8216;Glory, Glory, Hallelujah&#8217; and included such lines as: &#8220;We&#8217;ll make Sir Winston Churchill smoke a woodbine every day&#8221; ). We came upon two aged gents in Invacars, at least one of whom was stuck in the mud. They were mightily impressed as we pushed them out &#8211; and it probably helped our Scouting careers as we recorded this in our log. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail\"><a href=\"https:\/\/turnillhiswebsite.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/Invacar.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/turnillhiswebsite.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/Invacar-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1670\"\/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>When Villiers ceased production of the 150cc engine, it was replaced by 400 and 500cc units from Puch (I think) giving this ridiculously ungainly thing a top whack of 82 mph, it is rumoured. The vehicles were outlawed in 2003 and were doomed to be crushed by the vicious government of the time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;m not sure where the link to off-road motorcycles came from, but their name was made by the successes of the likes of Dave Bickers helped by Brian Stonebridge, formerly of BSA. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail\"><a href=\"https:\/\/turnillhiswebsite.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/Greeves-Hawkstone-1961.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/turnillhiswebsite.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/Greeves-Hawkstone-1961-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1671\"\/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>The key features of the bike were the leading link forks and the aluminium beam from the steering head to the engine. While the &#8216;beam&#8217; may have been presented as improving the precision of the steering, I can&#8217;t help but wonder if it wasn&#8217;t also a good bit cheaper than fabricating a full cradle in steel tube. The original forks used the rubber-in-torsion suspension from the &#8216;Invacars&#8217; which were self-damping and must have been a fraction of the cost of telescopics. The forks were certainly effective and I was deeply impressed with the complete absence of dive and the deeply finned alloy brake drums  which came from the scrambler. I used to think that the use of alloy castings was a quality feature, but I have since learned that it is cheaper in small production runs to produce castings than to use pressings. Again, I have no recollection of how I disposed of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link\" href=\"https:\/\/turnillhiswebsite.co.uk\/?page_id=49\">Return to &#8216;Bikes &#8230;&#8217;<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link\">Next &#8230;<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Once again, not the actual machine. As with the A7, my memories are very vague. I seem to recall that I bought it from someone in Gosport (a small coastal town in Hampshire, England, still known as &#8216;Turktown&#8217; because of the burial of Turkish sailors in the 1850&#8217;s). Sadly it was not a success as &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/turnillhiswebsite.co.uk\/?page_id=1667\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Greeves 250 &#8216;Sports Twin&#8217;&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1668,"parent":49,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/turnillhiswebsite.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1667"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/turnillhiswebsite.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/turnillhiswebsite.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/turnillhiswebsite.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/turnillhiswebsite.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1667"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/turnillhiswebsite.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1667\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1741,"href":"https:\/\/turnillhiswebsite.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1667\/revisions\/1741"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/turnillhiswebsite.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/49"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/turnillhiswebsite.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/1668"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/turnillhiswebsite.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1667"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}